November 12, 2009

What’s wrong with the Knicks?

Filed under: Uncategorized — wwinston @ 8:22 am

The Knicks are off to a 1-8 start and are only 1-5 at home. After adjusting for strength of opponents, the Knicks have played 9 points worse than average. Only Charlotte and Minnesota have played this badly. Let’s try and diagnose the Knicks problems and hopefully propose  a possible solution.

  After adjusting for strength of opponents when Duhon, Chandler and Lee are in the Knicks play 11 points worse than average; the rest of the time they play only 5 points worse than average.

    Larry Hughes has been great; when Hughes is in the Knicks have played 2 points worse than average (all numbers are per 48 minutes); when Hughes is out the Knicks are an abysmal 18 points worse than average.

   So does anything work? Well Hughes, Gallo and Harrington in is great: in 78 minutes this trio plays 19 points better than average . The rest of the time the Knicks play 14 points worse than average. This makes sense because all three are good outside shooters and the Knick offense seems to require a lot of good outside shooting ability (which Chandler, Jeffries, and Lee do not have). So what would I do?

When Nate returns (he will help a lot) I would start Hughes, Gallo, Nate and Harrington (5th probably Lee). Then try and keep 3 of these guys (excluding Lee)  on court as much as I could and sprinkle in Duhon, Chandler, Jeffries and Douglas. This strategy should lead to some level of respectability.

By the way after adjusting for strength of who you played with and against we find that Gallo totally keys Knicks offense. Hughes keys the defense and Lee really hurts the Knicks defense.


  1. Your analysis seems in sync with my observations (other than IMO Harrington is HORRIBLE – he’s like a black hole whenever he gets the ball and is constantly doing stupid things ). I have painfully watched every game.

    I was recently looking at some adjusted +/- stats for the Knicks so far this season at 82games and they have Chandler, Gallo, and Hughes being positive and Lee and Duhon being very poor.

    I realize the same exact methodologies are not being used, but in general any good adjusted +/- should be at least ball park similar. What could possibly account for such a huge discrepancy with Chandler?

    Comment by Italian Stallion — November 15, 2009 @ 12:16 am

  2. is not adjusted +/-.. it is +/- with player in – +/- with player out.

    Comment by wwinston — November 15, 2009 @ 8:47 am

  3. Thank you.

    Still seems like a huge swing.

    From what I saw on the court and from the box score stats, I would have guessed Chandler was more in line with what you are reporting. He’s had a very poor start. I’m hoping he’s still not 100% after summer surgery and can develop further later this year. He has athletic ability, but his shot selection has been poor and he doesn’t seem to have a “playmaker’s basketball IQ” at all. He can be painful to watch. He does something spectacular with his physical gifts and then takes 2-3 bonehead shots right after that. ughhhh

    Comment by Italian Stallion — November 15, 2009 @ 1:48 pm

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