October 2, 2009

Apology to Troy Murphy

Filed under: Uncategorized — wwinston @ 9:31 am

In an interview with True Hoop I said Troy Murphy had done little to help his team. I apologize. I should have said that with Golden State he had done little to help his team (average rating of -8 points in his last 4 years with Golden State). But in the last two years with Indiana he has improved to the level of an average NBA player(which is very good indeed). Kudos to Troy and the Pacers coaching staff for this improvement. It is rare to see such an amazing improvement during the middle of a player’s career,


  1. Can you expand a little more on how/what he has done to go from a below average player to an average level player?

    Do you expect last season to be a genuine improvement that will be sustained, or more of an abberation with his numbers falling back down again?

    Has there been other players who have made similar jumps at this stage of their careers?

    Quickly looking at his numbers, he has never played more than 34 minutes per game his career (average of 29), and last season his rebounding % improved, his shooting numbers across the board went up quite a lot, especially his 3′s which is a nice option for a player of his size to have.

    Does any of that correlate to his improvement?

    Comment by John — October 4, 2009 @ 8:06 am

  2. Great points. I think you picked off the reasons for Troy’s improvement. Odom improved mid career but there are not many. I will need to look at it. Murphy also improved a lot on defense (rebounding is part of defense) probably because Pacer’s defense schemes can hide a relatively weak defender.

    Comment by wwinston — October 4, 2009 @ 8:32 am

  3. Looking at it some more Joe Johnson has also shown great mid career improvement.

    Comment by wwinston — October 4, 2009 @ 11:07 am

  4. Hi Wayne,

    Here are a few names I’ve found going through my fantasy league player rankings that I feel have made an improvement in the middle of their careers. I know there are players who have done this and since retired, so I will spend some time going through this list shortly. I am curious to see what you think about these guys.

    Antonio Davis – Not sure if he is a great example, but he did have a decent jump after he was traded to Toronto for about 4 seasons. Numbers rose across the board.

    Jermaine O’Neal – Although his slow start can be attributed to being buried on a deep Portland bench for 4 seasons, he made one jump when he first went to Indiana, then a second smaller jump after 2 seasons there.

    Chauncey Billups – Took him about 4 to 4.5 seasons to get things going. Being traded 3 times in his rookie season probably helped delay his ascent, but may have helped him in the long run.

    Steve Nash – Took a jump during his 5th season (age 26) and then another one in his 9th (first season in Phoenix, age 30)

    Stephen Jackson – I put him here as he wasnt able to get a job in the NBA for a few years, he played all around the world before he started working things out with his 2nd season at the Spurs.

    Hedo Turkoglu – Went from a role player/backup to a starter and primary weapon in Orlando. Perhaps like Nash he has benefitted from moving to a team that runs a system that gives him the chance to excel. I guess it’s a chicken and the egg situation.

    John Salmons – Made a jump at age 29, although there isn’t enough data to really see if this is sustained or not.

    Comment by John — October 5, 2009 @ 6:49 am

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